Mr. Saeid HatamI; also the host had ended the party but we still can have some fun in balcony. First: one does not need to be an expertise in hermeneutic to understand what you had said about the “ 8 years hole defense.” Just re read what you have said. Second: next time if you want to humiliate we Iranian, please come up with some decent ammunition. With an unrelated article posted by wikipedia that anyone can modify trying to humiliate we Iranian? Com on, you must be intelligent than this, and what are you really trying to say? We Iranian are genetically inferior to the Germans? Bravo to your intelligence. First: There is nothing new under the roof, even moron knows that intelligent nations have a higher quality of life than the others and in economic it is called “ knowledge based” economy, The real question that is very volatile and controversy is whether different races have different intelligence, This is highly controversial issue and from both sides they are very decent and knowledgeable people arguing against each other and also this topic is sort of taboo to talk about but in future the supporters of genetically superior argument is going to rise and there is a reason for that. The world is moving toward a very dangerous, camouflaged version of ultra Fascism and these kinds of idea would have more supporters. The situation is going to be so bad that people would call Hitler a humanist; you do not have to believe me, just wait. Lets assume that there are certain races that genetically superior to others, based on you and other Persians intellectuals we Iranian are Aryans, so you need to answer my question. If we are Aryan so why we are not as intelligent as the Germans? Dear Saeid: you see you are contradicting yourself and hanging yourself with your own rope. If you say, we are not Aryan so we are inferior, I would say so what, what do you are expecting us to do? Sit home and smoke opium because we are not as intelligent than the Germans?
Mr. Hatami: I read the article in Wikipedia and there are already two others arguing against this article, one is over 50 pages. I would more than happy to discuss this matter but please next time has some decent references.
Please allow me to give you some of the best books that I have read on this matter and I would appreciate if you send the scientific articles that you have promised to XYZ. One of the most ardent advocate on genetically superior race is well known University of California in Berkley’s (UC-Berkeley) psychologist Arthur Jenson and I have read his controversial conversation with Frank Miele in the book “ Intelligence, Race, and Genetics” The others are Richard Herrnstein--- a Harvard psychologist--- and Charles Murray--- political scientist currently at the American Enterprise Institute--- These two authored 800 pages of book titled “ The Bell Curve, Intelligence and Class Structure in American Life.” Also there is British psychologist H. J. Eysenck and his book “ The IQ Argument.” In the opposite side there are too many but couple books became famous. Yale psychologist Robert Sternberg--- a wonderful thinker with a poetic style that authored dozens best seller books—with his book “ Our Labeled Children.” also by Robert Sternberg “ beyond IQ, a triarchic theory of human intelligence”, Dr. John Bruer's book “ The Myth of The First Three Years.” And the best known is the book” Not In Our Genes.’ Written by three people from three different fields, Richard Lewontin--- a Harvard evolutionary geneticist.---, Steven Rose --- a British neurobiologist and finally Leon Kamin—a Princeton psychologist--. And there are also others that takes middle ground, books such as “ Behavioral Genetics, The Clash of Culture and Biology” written by Ronald Carson and Mark Rothstein. There is no doubt in my mind that there must be tens of others that I am not aware of it. These people cannot agree with each other because of first; we do not know the nature of the intelligence and second: we do not know the effect of the culture in intelligence. There is absolutely no long-term research in the matter. Besides these I want to ask you a simple question, lets suppose we Iranian are not as intelligent as the Germans. What you are expecting us to do? Plus, as you may already know even in German society people are differ in their intelligence, what the not too intelligent ones should to do? Being prostitute in the streets? Mr. Hatami: also I have a doubt that you have any higher education, even if you have one, I can guarantee that you have no idea about what a human is. I can bet my life on this., if you had, you would not insult us with an article from wikipedia that even did not want to explaint it.
Mr. Hatami: I wished I were simple-minded reductionist as you are. You have taken small pieces of the total knowledge and wants to apply to everything. Let me quote just from the last book that intelligence by itself is not a predicate of success. It is called Marshmallow test. It says.” Psychologist Walter Mischel had experimenter tell individual four- years –olds in preschool:” If you wait until after I run an errand (which took about 15 minutes), you can have two marshmallows, but if you can’t wait, you can have one and only one marshmallow now.” A third of the children grabbed the marshmallow right away, the others waited. When the tested children were evaluated as they were graduating from high school, those who had waited turned out to be substantially superior as students than those who did not. At age four, the ability to delay gratification was twice as powerful a predicator of future SAT (Scholastic Aptitude Test) scores than was IQ.
Mr. Hatami: can you answer to the following questions? We all know that the roots of modern science, philosophy etc were in Greece, why they felt behind? Why Italy that was ahead of other nations in industrialization felt behind? Why Islamic nations that their Islamic scientists books that once were being taught at European universities felt behind? I might have an answer for the last one but I am sure no one has the answer to the all. The things are very complicated than you reductionists think.
Mr.Hatami: I would appreciate if you sent your scientific information to my e-mail at snassimi@yahoo.com.
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